Would this site ever be taken down?
I saw a popular creator call out the other day for pattern sharing, and a lott of patterns got deleted. It made me wonder how this site continues to run lol and if ever eventually, something similar may happen to this siteEdited by xoxoxoxo at 2024-10-4 12:44
Scr*bd is trying very hard to pretend thats what it isnt doing. It is partnering with content creators for subscriber content, and some content creators put previews on the site. So its in their interest to not annoy too many people.
With dot com domains, trying to lodge a complaint in order to deregister it becomes very murky when it involves international laws and intellectual property. With just the matter of the actual website remaining online, regardless of the domain name, its extremely difficult to take it down, which is why a certain famous t*rrent site is, last I checked, being hosted in a nuclear bunker, while its registered domain name keeps changing as it keeps abreast of domain name takedown challenges. The yo yo ho bottle of rum high seas community just routes around domain name changes, with several shadow libraries and backups distributing its hosted content widely.
The internet was originally developed by the US Dept of Defense to be resilient in the event of nuclear war, which means that any takedowns are simply routed around. It is extremely difficult to block it, so props to those, aahh, robust regimes who manage to mostly do it, save for the resourceful citizens who manage to tunnel through. I remember talking to an Iranian woman in another place who used VPN to just access some Western knitting patterns, and, well, anything outside. And of course, a lot of people in some countries where crafts like knitting and crochet are popular cannot actually access Western payment systems, so even if they do have the personal wealth to compare with foreign exchange prices, they cant buy from international designers. The idea of intellectual property is also a particularly Western (and relatively new) idea, and while the way it is set up in many economies does fund a lot of very creative and hardworking peoples livelihoods, it is actually quite foreign to many, and so sharing freely is not particularly morally problematic. The laws may also be looser, see efforts to take down "foreign" sites which are considered to not adhere to Western IP. It is also notable that in most Western countries, IP violations are not considered to be the same as theft, as they do not "permanently deprive" anyone of anything. Certainly those in the West who never would have had the money in the first place agree with this. Another similar pattern sharing site (not sure if I’m allowed to say the name but it started with a 4) was taken down a year or two ago, and I was never able to find out what happened.
Lost my (fairly high) member level and all the patterns I’d “bought” but not yet downloaded. static/image/common/user_online.gif xoxoxoxo static/image/common/clock.gif 2024-10-5 10:26
Out of curiosity, if you feel you can discuss it, which designer called out Scr*bd? Which patterns d ...
Oh the patterns that disappeared were more the modern day plushies ones like from Rin.Meow or loretta loops and other creators of that field.
I think some of chiacrafts patterns went as well, but I think she personally reports hers lol as she as mentioned doing so before.
The one who had called out Scrbd was cowley?crochet and had asked people to report the patterns, which I guess is well within her right.
Im not sure if the rest of my message posted but its really cool how websites utilise different domains to retain their information, I guess thats how the saying, once its posted you are never getting it back came to be.
I like how you highlighted different perspectives on the pattern sharing as well due to cultural differences amongst other things.
I chuckle a bit on this site though when people sayif a patterns price is too high theyll respect the creators decision when they clearly are active on this site for a reason. static/image/common/user_online.gif xoxoxoxo static/image/common/clock.gif 2024-10-4 10:30
Scr*bd is trying very hard to pretend thats what it isnt doing. It is partnering with content crea ...
Thank you for such a detailed reply and yes Scribd is clearly taking a higher moral ground when they clearly are not concerned about the issue until or unless it affects their income. Like you scan the documents and dont see the big Copyright page?pleasee Thats silly about "people will respect the decision". Thats not how economics works in societies. Prices are set to what "the market can bear", and if some people cant bear that kind of cost over a long time span, they will rationally look around for lower cost alternative options, same or similar, subject to a complex web of modifiers like availability, logistical difficulties and risks, invested meaning in authenticity, etc.
There is such a large income disparity in the global market for these widely promoted and propagated designs, that it is indeed harsh to be one of the "have-nots". Let the "haves" preach and pay. Without collective funding, in a modern society this would be universal basic income or the like, creatives need private funding. But this model that must prohibit sharing goes against the human grain. We are actually a collective and generous species. Out of curiosity, if you feel you can discuss it, which designer called out Scr*bd? Which patterns disappeared? Im fond of that site, and theres a lot of patterns up still today. Ive only noticed Stephen West designs having a takedown (despite there still being some paid ones remaining) but Im sure theres others.
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