Cost of items

TheKnitter

I know this has been discussed before but Ive seen a HUGE increase in people charging 100 GC for their upload.  Now, I know its not "real" money but it just seems out and outright greedy to charge that much when it takes so looooooong to build up GC.  Almost everything I upload Ive purchased on my own - even things that are twice as much as those posted by people asking 100 GC, I cant seem to bring myself to go above 75 GC and I even felt greedy myself.  Anyone else feel the cost has gotten way out of hand or is it just old fashioned me??

KnottyKnitter

MadCatter 2017-11-13 04:00
I 100% agree too. They are not sharing for the right reason!

Not everyone is in a position to earn  ...

I agree whole heartedly

Yarnylove

I try keep  anything i share at 50 gc. But Ive noticed what I receive is less and less. I used to get 45 gc now Im only getting 30/35 gc. Im with the charge less get more downloads overall thinking.  And I loath the read permissions!

TheKnitter

jademonkey 2017-11-15 13:33
Im interested in 1 pattern offered in a multi-part book of 8.  Ive tried to like a few of the re ...

MadCatter - its about greed basically.  Think about the time you put in on this site to get enough GC to "buy" something that cost 100 GC and another 30 GC to download - is your time not valuable also?  Its not really "free" - nothing is ever really free IMHO.  I have plenty of GCs, I refuse to give them to greedy people.  Id have to have one of my grandchildren begging for me to make the item and be stone cold broke, unable to actually "buy" the pattern to download it from here for 100 GC.  Mark my words, this is the start - soon the average price will be 150 GC and it will steadily increase from there.  What happened to friendly, and sharing so everyone could enjoy?  Yes, I get riled up when I see greed no matter were it is, even the hotel who raises its prices because theres a big event in town for the weekend (yes, that really happened, and YES I refused to pay their prices - I stayed somewhere else and had just as a good a time in the evening with all the other knitters and spinners in the lobby of the hotel I stayed at AND when I asked the hotel that usually charges $139/night why it was $239/night they were honest and told me because of the event in town they raised their prices).  Since everything is anonymous (except our posts here), apparently the people charging the high amounts dont see the comments, nor do they care.  What is to be gained by charging such a big amount of GCs?  My daughter would tell you I dont pay full price for anything so I guess its just my nature and apparently Im in the minority LOL.

StitchFairy

I feel that it depends on the content, if I upload a small chart it is very little GC. If it is a book or magazine that has lots of pages and multiple parts I try to put the GC appropriately. If it is a mag with two parts I will charge 25GC each part. I had thought of doing one part at 50 and the other at 0, but then I thought people might only download the 0 GC part. Also I take in consideration if it is a rare out of print, expensive , or super popular.
I try to also take in consideration that each download is -30 and the cost you set in GC. For example if a chart costs -25GC (set by the uploader) The chart total cost will be -55 (-25 for uploader & -30 for pindiy).

I think that some of the high cost items may be greed, but may be that the uploader doesnt understand how the charges apply. I didnt at first.

TheKnitter

StitchFairy 2017-11-11 18:49
I feel that it depends on the content, if I upload a small chart it is very little GC. If it is a bo ...

Youre very kind.  I guess Im a glass half empty type of person (always looking on the down side instead of the upside of something).  It may be new posters trying to build up their GC quickly but I think some people (me for instance) gets really put off by their pricing.  This is after all, a "sharing" site and theyre making it difficult for new members to download.  I also dont understand why some people limit who can see the posts by user group since once again, this is a sharing group.  You dont charge excessive GC even for large books.  Id rather put a lower price on something and hope MORE people will download.  I just refuse to download something that will ultimately cost 130 GC when you factor in the download cost.  That one item would mean youd have to post 26 times at 5 GC per post or the same amount of times for hourly posts to get that many.  Many people dont have the time to spend in front of the computer to do that.  They work,  have families and obligations that come before pleasure (I know I do).  It would have to be something Im definitely going to make or have been unable to obtain anywhere else for me to do that.  Thanks for your response, glad to see someone read my post :-)  Happy stitching!

sundrop016

You are 100% right.  It started with that one person and evolved.  People are very greedy  this is suppose to be a friendly, sharing site...no more.  I dont comment or rate people who are greedy.   

TheKnitter

sundrop016 2017-11-12 09:52
You are 100% right.  It started with that one person and evolved.  People are very greedy  this is s ...

Perhaps theyll read this and get the message.  OR, folks, just dont download the items.  I would almost guarantee that will stop the greed.  Not getting ANY GC will surely send a message.  Thanks for your comments :-)

MadCatter

I 100% agree too. They are not sharing for the right reason!

Not everyone is in a position to earn lots of coin as they dont have patterns to share, which is why they have joined the group. I love that many of the older patterns were shared free, even books and magazines. I think this must have been a much more caring group a few years ago.

MadCatter

StitchFairy 2017-11-12 07:49
I feel that it depends on the content, if I upload a small chart it is very little GC. If it is a bo ...

I dont really understand the part about being rare or popular as if I had something to share I would just share it no matter how many people will buy, 1 or 100. But I do thank you for thinking about the cost and how the download tax adds to it, especially with multiple part files. More should be like you!

jademonkey

Ive been using another popular pattern site since I started knitting over 10 years ago.  This morning I saw a nice but not spectacular cardigan going for $12. Thats much too much for a single pattern!  So, I think it must be a trend, not just here, but on others sites as well.  I agree with the TheKnitters comment "just dont download the items".  If the price seems excessive on any site I just pass it by.  

I uploaded quite a bit to reach DIY.2 because many of the patterns I was interested in had "read permissions", which I find stupid, but Ive not charged over 50GC.  Also, if I get a pattern for free I post it for free here.

TheKnitter

jademonkey 2017-11-13 09:37
Ive been using another popular pattern site since I started knitting over 10 years ago.  This morni ...

Apparently people dont get the "sharing" part of the site.  I am delighted when I find an older pattern that has been posted for free.  I think its fair to charge something though since the uploader took the time to get the patterns, download photos, and upload the whole package with description to the site.  

We have two people who create in my knitting guild (both on other popular sites).  Both of them charge about 1/2 of what you mentioned (and one of them is also an engineer who does extremely intricate lace so you know the charting is difficult).  I think it most certainly does boil down to greed on the part of creators and the people sharing here.  Im on SS and havent received an increase in years (everything they give us as an increase automatically goes to Medicare so why they bother I dont know - taking from one hand to put into the other).  For me to acquire something from other sites is really a treat since funds are limited.  I guess thats why it upsets me so to see the greed.  Someday these folks may be in the same position as I am and perhaps theyll understand better.  Not complaining about my situation, Im very grateful for what I do have!

TheKnitter

MadCatter 2017-11-12 15:09
I dont really understand the part about being rare or popular as if I had something to share I wo ...

If I had multiple part files I wouldnt charge at all since each one would cost 30 GC.  Ive seen as many as 6 parts to something - 180 GC just to get all parts - I wont do it.  Ive learned how to decrease the size and I would try that to see if I could get it under the upload limit.  

And, I think youre right, the group has evolved from when it first started.  I think the older members were more "giving".  It seems to be an "I/me" society now more than ever before.  Perhaps because people like me grew up with less we want to give more???