Cost of items

MadCatter

I understand and it is sad as others may have the same pattern and be happy to share with much lower or no cost but then they cant.

Not meaning rudeness but it does seem hypocritical to worry about people only saving part of a file without paying unreal money given the nature of this site. I am very greatful because I dont have spare $ for my hobby and many things I like are out of print, but I do also worry how it effects the designers in the real world cost of things too

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2017-11-16 18:29
I understand and it is sad as others may have the same pattern and be happy to share with much lower ...

I wasnt actually worried or attempting to circumvent the fee system.  I just questioned why parts of the same book/magazine were downloaded more than other parts.

Like you, Im not in a position to spend $ on patterns and so I was happy to find this site.
Im getting used to it but its still not easy or intuitive to navigate and there are few "how do I..." instructions.

As to paying with "unreal money"...  Well, no, its not "real" but it does have value because its the currency used on this site.  I could go on a GC buying spree but Id rather wait for the things I really like and can afford to buy all the materials needed to make it.

TheKnitter

Of all the new posts, there seems to be a majority that are 80 GC - WHY?  Apparently those posting think their items are GOLD.  Ill comment on how nice they are, and they are nice, Ill get my 5 GC for posting but I wont download at that cost (yes, yes, I know its not real money but 110 GC to download one item???  REALLY?).  Im so loving going through the older posts where items are free and you only pay the download cost of 30 GC - how about the rest of you?  Its hard enough to level up here without people being greedy with the download cost IMHO.  I know several members who just dont upload anymore and Im close to that point myself.  Have I mentioned I hate greed?  Oh yeah, I remember, I have SEVERAL times.  If others are not willing to share at a reasonable cost I think others like me will just stop upload.
Im adding to the original post here because as Ive gone through the new uploads Im seeing MANY people who are downloading at the cost of 80 and 100 GCs so apparently Im out of step with the other people on this site.  They obviously dont care about the cost (and thats fine - thats what makes the world go round - different opinions, we can agree to disagree).  

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2017-11-17 14:16
Of all the new posts, there seems to be a majority that are 80 GC - WHY?  Apparently those posting t ...

I started buying patterns over 10 years ago on another popular site and remember the majority were free there too.  
Little by little they crept up until now, Id guess the average price for what I buy is about $6.50, but Ive seen single patterns as high as $12!  And I refuse to pay that much.

Patterns have to be purchased with actual $ by someone to be uploaded here, so the higher the actual $ the higher GCs will be charged.  
I have downloaded a few that cost 80 GC (total) and thats really as high as Ill go for a single pattern.  The reason I was willing to pay the GC price was because it would have cost over $60 to buy them elsewhere.  

But youre right, there are some excessively greedy ones around that are charging GCs out-of-proportion to the "worth" of the pattern.  We all personally decide the "worth" based on personal taste, complexity of design, construction, whatever your criteria is and then choose to buy or not.

As for uploading, I decide cost, if any, on the same basis.   If I get it for free I post it for free but if I paid for it there will be a reasonable, but not excessive charge.

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2017-11-16 12:11
This thread is about the high GC of some patterns.  To "pay" an outrageous price feels like I appr ...

Yes, the things Ive uploaded cost REAL  money too and yet I felt greedy charing 75 GC for something I paid quite a bit of money for.  Practically every post today was 100 GC with a few 80 GC.  I work just as hard for the actual money I spend as everyone else does.  I now make a point to put it in writing, thanking people who upload and charge a REASONABLE cost - then I actually download the item!  This is how it starts - mark my words, pretty soon the average will be 150 GC, and it will continue to rise.  Since leveling up and getting GC can be difficult, theyll drive people away so if thats what the site owners think is appropriate who am I to question it...

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2017-11-15 13:33
Im interested in 1 pattern offered in a multi-part book of 8.  Ive tried to like a few of the re ...

MadCatter - its about greed basically.  Think about the time you put in on this site to get enough GC to "buy" something that cost 100 GC and another 30 GC to download - is your time not valuable also?  Its not really "free" - nothing is ever really free IMHO.  I have plenty of GCs, I refuse to give them to greedy people.  Id have to have one of my grandchildren begging for me to make the item and be stone cold broke, unable to actually "buy" the pattern to download it from here for 100 GC.  Mark my words, this is the start - soon the average price will be 150 GC and it will steadily increase from there.  What happened to friendly, and sharing so everyone could enjoy?  Yes, I get riled up when I see greed no matter were it is, even the hotel who raises its prices because theres a big event in town for the weekend (yes, that really happened, and YES I refused to pay their prices - I stayed somewhere else and had just as a good a time in the evening with all the other knitters and spinners in the lobby of the hotel I stayed at AND when I asked the hotel that usually charges $139/night why it was $239/night they were honest and told me because of the event in town they raised their prices).  Since everything is anonymous (except our posts here), apparently the people charging the high amounts dont see the comments, nor do they care.  What is to be gained by charging such a big amount of GCs?  My daughter would tell you I dont pay full price for anything so I guess its just my nature and apparently Im in the minority LOL.

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2017-11-18 19:02
Yes, the things Ive uploaded cost REAL  money too and yet I felt greedy charing 75 GC for somethi ...

I like your idea of thanking people who charge a reasonable cost and thats something Im going to start doing too.  

TheKnitter

Im adding something to this post - apparently theyve changed the amount received from your downloads.  I saw a post today that folks are only receiving 70% of the cost so maybe thats why the price has gone up between 80 and 100 GC.   If everyone is willing to pay that much and were only getting 70% as opposed to the 90% we USED to get, shoot, Ill start charging that too.  Why not.  Im fed up with the whole mess..  It would be very nice if they told us these changes were being made (and perhaps they have and I just missed it???).  Im going to try and see if its posted anywhere.

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2017-11-19 14:36
Im adding something to this post - apparently theyve changed the amount received from your downloa ...

My transaction tax has been 30% since I joined in August.  Im still finding this site hard to navigate; finding things is a bit random.  Id been using the site for months before I bumped into info about the hourly bonuses!  
I wonder how many other people dont know they can earn more GCs this way to offset the higher trans. tax?

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2017-11-19 08:12
MadCatter - its about greed basically.  Think about the time you put in on this site to get enoug ...

Sorry Knitter, I only just saw your reply to me now.  I think I have been misunderstood as Im agreeing that the cost is too high and not in the spirit of sharing

Today one of the new cross stitching charts was 200 coin, which I expect will become the norm by January. Yesterday nearly all of them had the ridiculously high download cost, not purchase price, of 199 and when I questioned why they had been set so high on one of the posts I had admin "ban delete" my comment with the referrence "irrelevant". I dont know if that means Ive been given a warning and if I question again I will be banned? but I asked in a respectful way and was genuinely just curious why anyone would do that so now I wont comment with anything more than the generic thanks for sharing.

*edite to add* I did not download the chart!  but have been caught out with a hidden download cost like that before so know to be aware of it